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To show to Els if you don't think it would be too discouraging. Your rose is doing very well considering its in a hot dry environment is poor soil.


This wild rose has been growing un nurtured for 10 - 11 years now but in the corner of what , up to my father's death a vegetable garden that had been dug and manured and had every care taken of it for about 160 years. As well as liking a good soil the wild rose is a hedge plant your's might feel a little too exposed there, mine is growing surrounded by a Cottoneaster and 2 other shrubs that I can't remember the name of. A wind break might help. And the best of luck one day your wild rose might be too tall to prune just like mine(about10 foot and still growing)
From my side,



From the neighbour's side up hill


But it does have only a plain white flower.

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Date: 2008-06-15 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com
My dog rose has to fight a set of holly trees. Neither get pruned. They were a hedge but now they screen us from the brick works and tip. (The tip is refilling the hole left by digging out the clay, both are still in operation) http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=52.597971,-1.671638&spn=0.00361,0.008444&t=h&z=17

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Date: 2008-06-15 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
They seem to do best when fighting for space, all the good ones on the Sirhowy Walk are fighjting for spce at the edge of small woods that once were hedges.

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Date: 2008-06-15 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
Newport had 3 brick works back in the early 19th century, none of then as big as that monstrosity you have there, but you wouldn't know where to look unless you had studied local history. One at ALt-yr-yn is now a nature reserve and scenic view, and that was just with letting nature take her time. In about 300 years after they've finished digging out the clay, you will hardly know it's been there%D. Now how ever it is far better ti have the holly and the rose.

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Date: 2008-06-15 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com
Backtrack, the railway magazine I read, had a long piece on the Monmouthshire Railway and Canal Company. It was all about the valleys, including the Sirhowy and a good looking viaduct that was demolished decades ago.

You don't live in one of the settlements it said were built with only the tramway for access to the rest of the world, do you?

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Date: 2008-06-15 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
No I'm about3 miles further North, still on the Crumlin arm of the Mon and Brecon Canal and about the same distance south of the Crumlin Viaduct, which was the end point of that canal. We are on the east side of the main valley. The Sirhowy valley, where the walk is to be found,is a very narrow side valley to the west with little room for pre industrialisation work. It was only when the tram way opened up to bring coal and steel from the Ebbw Vale region to Newport Docks that villages sprang up. You have never seen ribbon development until you've driven from Crosskeys to Blackwood up the Sirhowy.%)
I watch the film Arabesque every time it's on TV just to see the Crumlin viaduct again, they used it for the bridge in the last chase scene in it.

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Date: 2008-06-15 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tattooedraven.livejournal.com
That's not a rose bush! That's a tree! =P

Must smell awfully sweet and wonderful when blooming. I love the smell of roses. :D

Did I mention, we've tried and tried and TRIED to get white roses to grow but I think its simply too hot because they always die on us. And I'd LOVE to have a white rose bush. So Kudos to you for having such a beautiful plant to have. :D

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Date: 2008-06-15 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
Have you read [livejournal.com profile] reapermum's reply. She's on clay and that is as bad to grow roses on as yours. She digs a big hole, wide in your case rather than deep, and fills it with good compost and or top soil then plants the rose Els could try mulching with a good compost if he doesn't already.

Mine had a better scent when it was smaller you have to hang out of the bedroom window to catch the scent of the flowers as they are all on top, 10 feet or so above the ground.

This is what the first 4 feet looks like Image (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/Avonschild/?action=view&current=005-3.jpg)

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Date: 2008-06-15 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com
She's on clay

Actually it's more complicated than that. The topsoil is sandy and so freedraining and hungry. Then we have a clay subsoil. We need good compost in the hole, with slow release fertiliser, and hope the bigger stuff can get it's roots down.

Funnily enough, one of the neighbours said he hit coal when he dug a pond in his garden years ago. We are just on the edge of the North Warwickshire coal field.

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Date: 2008-06-15 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com
{boggles} That's... quite a bush.

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Date: 2008-06-16 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
It's not all rose, there is an enormouse Cottoneaster bush infront of it looking from my side but from next door's side that is all rose.

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Date: 2008-06-15 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com
Must have some great thorns on it too!
I love roses but the only one that thrives in my garden is one I try to ignore. If I pay attention to a rose bush it usually falls over and dies, even when I follow all the right gardening instructions.

I've no idea where the latest one came from it just popped up one day and has been with me ever since because I leave it alone.

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Date: 2008-06-16 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
It is thorny, the small tightly packed sort of thorny that acts like Velcro, it's the brambles that are growing trough it that are the worst. I have the same affect on roses, my triffid grew all by herself, I haven't done a thing for it.

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Date: 2008-06-16 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com
Wow - it is like a scene from a fairy tale about the Sleeping Beauty.
True, it depends on the condition. Such rich bushes can be found here too but only where the soil is good. Which is not very often in the south of Bohemia.

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Date: 2008-06-16 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linda-joyce.livejournal.com
When you add in the brambles it is, those I am trying to kill off. It is amazing the goodness you get from 150 years of regular manuring, even after 20 years down to grass the vegetable garden soil is still the best around.

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